уже невольно начинаешь сомневаться в своем вкусе, когда буквально каждый раз, когда открываешь тумблер, видишь посты с joss sucks и fuck joss whedon.
достали, хоть всю ленту меняй.
особенно мило,когда люди находят интересные вещи в AoU (а их там вообще-то полно), но при этом оговариваются, что I don’t in a million years believe this was intentional.
почему-то у меня с этим вопросом прямо боль.
вообще тумблер довольно беспощаден и эта ментальность меня пугает.
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понравился этот пост про сцену с главным страхом стива. по-моему, там вообще всё очевидно. как он сказал в TWS, "all guys from my barbershop quartet are dead". стив одинок, потерян. а этом новом мире неожиданно есть 2 человека из его прошлого. 2 его самых близких человека. но баки его не помнит, а у пегги расстройство памяти.
Age of Ultron: about Bucky
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So I saw the movie last night (hooray!) and it wasn’t as terrible as I was expecting. It could have been a hell of a lot better and I did have a few things I ranted about a lot, but I’d like to address something everyone’s been freaking out about:
Steve’s “fear” dream with Peggy and the total absence of Bucky. So here’s where the spoilers come in, be forewarned.
First of all, these dreams are supposed to be the worst fear imaginable, right? And on the surface, Steve’s is that he dances with Peggy? What? It makes no sense. Because that’s not what the dream was about - I could be looking way more into this (because Joss sucks and probably didn’t think to have symbolism in this movie at all let alone this complex of symbolism but WHATEVER [вот об этих вещах я говорю.] it’s gonna be my headcanon so) but this is what I think that dream meant:
It opens up with the cheery, dancing scene of soldiers and their girls, right? But at closer look, we see all these men that are bleeding to death. And even more poignantly, there were at least two obvious pairs within this scene of two men, one bleeding and the other patching him up/trying to help. It was the first thing I noticed, and the first thing you see: brothers-in-arms who are bloody, one trying to save the other.
Then we have Peggy show up, looking gorgeous and wonderful, asking Steve about their dance. And then we even get a quick glimpse of them dancing - but Steve seems extremely distressed by her question. Even moreso, the entire scene he is looking for something. Even once Peggy shows up, Steve looks at her and registers then looks behind him again. The thing he was looking for wasn’t Peggy because he kept searching.
So my interpretation? There was a stark, extremely obvious empty, sucking hole in that room. Peggy should have been able to fill it - but she didn’t. Because Steve’s worst fear was never about losing Peggy (as much as he liked her, not downing Steggy or their friendship at all.)
No, instead, the worst thing Steve can imagine? Forgetting. Forgetting Bucky.
He’s been to dancehalls like this a hundred times, probably. During the war drinking with the Commandos, in Brooklyn. And who was always at his side? Except this time, he keeps looking, but Bucky isn’t there. His worst fear is forgetting his best friend the way his best friend forgot him.
There are men patching each other up, saving each other - something he hasn’t been able to do for Bucky. Bucky’s not there, the best friend he’s supposed to be saving isn’t there. There’s a sucking, empty void in his place, an obvious lack of presence in the room, that strange - something’s missing - feeling.
And I’m sure there’s some part of him that feels guilty for turning to Peggy in the 1940s when he should’ve been looking for Bucky instead. So here, she wasn’t the focus of his vision, she was the guilt trip that he’d abandoned his best friend for the words of a beautiful girl. His worst fear, that he could dance with her as though everything was fine, as though he was okay. As though he wasn’t missing his other half.
Forgetting Bucky the way Bucky forgot him, that’s Steve’s worst fear. And between the bleeding men, the empty room, Steve’s constant searching, and the weird request to dance-all-happy when this is supposed to be a traumatizing dream, I think it’s not that far of a stretch.
(Not to mention that later Steve is coping way better than everyone else, and when Tony talks about his dark side Steve replies with “You just haven’t seen it yet.” Although I think he totally should have said “You just haven’t met him yet,” because Bucky is totally Steve’s darkside.)
Anyways, that’s my schpeel on Steve’s vision. Because the front line of “missing a dance with Peggy is my greatest fear” makes literally 0 sense.
Edit: and as pointed out by thenobledead, there is of course the line “the war is over, we can go home,” bringing in the other part of Steve’s fear: having nothing left to fight for.
[от себя: об этом я не подумала, но действительно: роджерс - военный эксперимент. он мечтал попасть в армию бороться со злом, армия сделала его героем почти так же, как была сотворена mockingjay, я сейчас пришла к выводу, что между стивом и китнисс масса параллелей. кэп и пересмешница - продукты военно-политического пиара. они попали в эту машину - по их ощущениям - совершенно случайно, и события вышли из-под их контроля. они скорее символы, чем лидеры. они могут воодушевлять, но они не принимают глобальные решения.
стив не знает, кто он, когда нет войны или хотя бы бесконечной череды сражений, когда нет какой-то Цели.
помимо этого, на данный момент стив ничего не знает о побочных эффектах серума. с его точки зрения он если не бессмертен, то его продолжительность жизни значительно превышает обычную человеческую. получается, этот опустевший танцевальный зал, наполненный лишь эхом давно замолкшего смеха, является его судьбой.]